2018 BMW M5 vs Alpina B5 - 5 Series super-saloon showdown | Autocar

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    The BMW M5 is typically the benchmark big German superslaoon. Its twin-turbocharged engine makes all but 600bhp these days, and drives all four wheels of the hottest BMW 5-Series, to make it a crushingly capable sedan.
    But, as Yoda once said: there is another. Alpina is an independent manufacturer and valued customer of BMW, and as soon as an M-car is on the horizon, so too is the Alpina version. This is the B5, equal on power with the M5 and also employing four-wheel drive, but with a very different, rather smoother and more discreet way of going about, ultimately, the same job.
    Which is the best at it? We head to the overcast roads of Wales to find which of these two out-übers the other.
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J B
J B

3:57 with captions on

2 days ago
Marcel West-Bailey
Marcel West-Bailey

I think it would be interesting to see Alpina's take on an M5 opposed to a 5 series.

25 days ago
Cut de Pie Fails
Cut de Pie Fails

The b5 makes no sense what-so-ever given how plush the f90 is, BUT, the b5 touring, the d5 and most importantly the b3, especially the b3 touring, do make a LOT of sense, m3 power, 5 series comfort on a very practical more sensible sized car. To me the b3 would be a daily and highway choice if a touring is a must. The new rs6 is gargantuan, the e63s touring looks like an hearse car, just makes sense. The b5 engine is trash tho, the s63tu has a much bigger budget and a lot of quality isdues solved and still has very cheap bits that make them not as reliable as they should, the n63 is an even cheaper built shittier version of the s63.The D5 touring would be a finer choice.

2 months ago
Jetdot37
Jetdot37

I hope alpina stay in business. I think the electric vehicle market threatens them the most. But they can adapt

5 months ago
Victor Estrada
Victor Estrada

I'll take the M5 with the alpina wheels, will hold up value better and the engine has more tuning capabilities

6 months ago
alphabetaxenonzzzcat
alphabetaxenonzzzcat

The first version of the M5 is still my favourite. The current version with 4 wheel drive just feels wrong(yes - I know you can set it to rear wheel drive, but it still lacks the feel of a rear wheel drive car). The Alpina is a different beast - more aimed at comfort, but I think they drive the 4 wheel drive system better. I’d take that over the current M5.

8 months ago
Pouyan
Pouyan

And long may that continue...

10 months ago
Michael
Michael

BMW M5 is my favourite car

11 months ago
alphabetaxenonzzzcat
alphabetaxenonzzzcat

It’s probably better than the current M5, as I think making it 4 wheel drive rather misses the point of it(the M5). As such, I’d go for the Alpina.

Year ago
Henjoh
Henjoh

Id take the B5 cause you can get it in a Wagon form

Year ago
ALPINA TM
ALPINA TM

Alpina❤️🔥

Year ago
Wayne Bynoe
Wayne Bynoe

HEY! HEY!WHO PUT U IN CHARGE OF OPINIONS!? REGARDING (1)ONE CAR OR THEE., OTHER?! WHY NOT ME THEN EH! WHY NOT ANYONE!SO YES I OWN A(BMW.) AND HAVE DRIVEN THEM MANY TIMES BEFORE AND CAN SAY THIS!( IT'S THEE MOST MEMORABLE RIDE)!!! DANCES INTO CORNERS BEAUTIFULLY! HOLDING IT'S LINE! THERE IS NARY SEDAN OR COUPE ! THAT HAS THE MEMORABLE QUALITIES OF A TRUE DRIVERS (CAR)! LIKE A AGAIN)-(BMW) WHICH I NOTICED YOU! SORT OF HAD A HERNIA NAMING A VALID COMPARISON OOPH"S THERE IS ,,,NONE!SO HANG IN THERE U WINE CRITIC! HOW MANY FINGERS DO U SEE ( WRONG)! VALUE THE HARMONY OF THE CAR!AND YOUR COMMUNICATION WITH IT! THEN HAVE NARY NOTHING UNFAVOURABLE TO SAY.A (BMW) IS'NT A CAR U CRITICIZE! IT;S A CAR U ENCOURAGE! ...A FEAT OF HARMONY....

Year ago
JELH
JELH

The Alpina B5 he's driving is the same one that Jeremy Clarkson tested.

Year ago
JELH
JELH

I was expecting a track battle between these two beasts, but instead all I got was a borefest... Leave to Autocar to make a sports saloon comparison test sound like a Vectra vs Mondeo test.

Year ago
Marco Casa
Marco Casa

We can get the brakes carbon in this Alpina? thanks

Year ago
William Wallace
William Wallace

I’m sorry but that spoiler on the alpina is hideous

Year ago
JaKicks
JaKicks

I wannna own a alpina in the us there very rare over here especially in New England

Year ago
Caribbean GTR
Caribbean GTR

Hmmm, these cars are about speed, quickness and handling. I would have preferred a performance test and comparison. Why shouldn't a family luxury car have everything this M5 has? Its the perfect usable car with a great capacity to keep up and thrash a 911 RS2 and drive your family to the track in comfort. I love it. This V8 twin turbo will also be infinitably tunable too. Fast forward to the M5 Competition and now were cooking with gas :)

Year ago
Marko Djosevski
Marko Djosevski

I'm in love with all Alpinas

Year ago
Mpho Chabalala
Mpho Chabalala

Those Alpina rims are timeless

Year ago
TCC Exposed
TCC Exposed

He is so boring

Year ago
Overlord
Overlord

this guy needs sacked.

Year ago
M3 Passion
M3 Passion

jon he‘s responsible for the defeat of an M5 in a dragrace. Yes, he must be sacked

Year ago
Greg Gevojanyan
Greg Gevojanyan

What’s up with the rear quads on the right of the B5?

Year ago
Anti-Balour
Anti-Balour

Biturbo Alpina's power gang 💪

Year ago
n63n 602hp
n63n 602hp

who but alpina if m series have xdrvie ? now alpina is nonsense

Year ago
teun debruijn
teun debruijn

i would take the alpina all day

2 years ago
J Marex
J Marex

“If you like that kinda none sense don’t forget to subscribe” I love british sens of humor.

2 years ago
Nobil Babu
Nobil Babu

Why did BMW ditched their v10 . It could have been a beast.

2 years ago
M3 Passion
M3 Passion

Nobil Babu no it‘s not effective. V8 Biturbo eats V10 every day

Year ago
paulanderson79
paulanderson79

Emissions and fuel economy basically. I'd be quite happy with a diesel Alpina to be honest.

2 years ago
Epicon 6
Epicon 6

I like the Alpina looks better

2 years ago
My Name
My Name

The Alpina is a wolf in sheep's clothing. Its design differs fundamentally from that of the M5: It is a high speed cruiser for the highway, a real counterpart to the Panamera. Highest quality workmanship (lavalina leather (12,000 euros!)) combined with lowest fuel consumption! The cars are built by BMW (special parts are supplied by Alpina), the final production takes place at Alpina. Fascinating: You can drive in the Eco mode the familly very inconspicuous and economical, in Sport + mode then with the highest comfort, very quietly with a top speed of 340 km/h. There are not a few car experts in Germany who credibly say that this Alpina B5 is one of the best cars of all times! It is difficult to compare a off-the-peg car (M5) with an Alpina.

2 years ago
Alex A
Alex A

Alpina, always was better

2 years ago
Ifan Gruff
Ifan Gruff

Alpina any day

2 years ago
Corey Cameron
Corey Cameron

I'll still buy the M5

2 years ago
troll god
troll god

alpina looks far more sophisticated

2 years ago
TheNorbipocsa
TheNorbipocsa

Finally made an interesting car sound boring

2 years ago
NallenTV
NallenTV

There are aspects of the Alpina's presentation, like the B5 BITURBO badges, that are starting to look really dated.

2 years ago
Fabio Carvalho
Fabio Carvalho

Still miss Steve Sutcliffe and his drifted curves

2 years ago
Gavin Howe
Gavin Howe

Both good, but I like the estate option and the ability to customise. I bought the B5

2 years ago
Mahesh Chinthaka
Mahesh Chinthaka

zf 8 just on everything lol

2 years ago
Sam Cooper
Sam Cooper

I can confirm the new B5 is a stunning car. I'm lucky enough to have spent some time in my friends B5 estate. Amazing car.

2 years ago
Ákos Kovács
Ákos Kovács

He may be a good journalist, not for the screen though... Boring presenter... Steve Sutcliffe or Chris...

2 years ago
tiktok toyatoya
tiktok toyatoya

Boring

2 years ago
Matchless Music TV
Matchless Music TV

Who likes Alpina, more than M power ?

2 years ago
Melih Çalıcı
Melih Çalıcı

I do. It's a posh version of the M, and mountains more reliable.

6 months ago
Pete Morbius
Pete Morbius

the front bumper of M looks better

2 years ago
Arran Stewart
Arran Stewart

Alpina looks like it’s thrown a set of Fox racing wheels on it straight out of halfords ffs! What were they thinking? I’ll keep a look out for the ripspeed seatbelt covers too.

2 years ago
Mika Hakinen
Mika Hakinen

Alpina!

2 years ago
Malteser3535
Malteser3535

The M5 with the Alpina's green colour, please!

2 years ago
TheBlackfish
TheBlackfish

Drove the Alpina B5 of my father just minutes ago and i can tell you, that it's not harder to drive then my 320d but it's a lot more fun and more comfortable.

2 years ago
CTO Information
CTO Information

people stop talking about Camry....I mean Lexus. if Lexus put this type of performance in their cars, who knows what will be the quality.

2 years ago
MICHGO1
MICHGO1

DO ALL THE ENGLISH MUMBLE?

2 years ago
BLACK BIMMER
BLACK BIMMER

BMW M always been BMW. Unlike AMG. AMG is more like ALPINA. So I think ALPINA and AMG should be compared since they’re outside the actual brand.

2 years ago
node
node

B5 is perfect. If it was available in America I'd have it. But since it isn't I'll have to stick with my Kia Rio.

2 years ago
gingerbread man
gingerbread man

No m car should be 4 wheel drive, BMW’s should be rwd that’s what people like when we pick BMW’s

2 years ago
Олег Радон
Олег Радон

Alpina is my dream car! Why they didn’t make x5?) For the subj - didn’t get the point of a reviewer! What a significant difference between them? It’s what I heard out on other Alpina s reviews that was like a perfect welded weapon in between Bimmer and merc!)

2 years ago
Peter Cavellini
Peter Cavellini

Is it just me but, doesn’t t the Alpinas rear bounce up and down a bit?

2 years ago
Peter Cavellini
Peter Cavellini

Cream Leather!!!, maybe I’m lazy but I’d stick with Black Leather, doesn’t show up the dirt so much.

2 years ago
Anti-Roaches Movement
Anti-Roaches Movement

meh, junk vs junk, these junks break down faster than land rovers , cost a million to fix...

2 years ago
marko nikolić
marko nikolić

Alpina

2 years ago
Chrisna Nieuwoudt
Chrisna Nieuwoudt

The right rear exhaust tailpipe scew

2 years ago
Frank Shortman
Frank Shortman

Chrisna Nieuwoudt Has

2 years ago
puttitat2
puttitat2

Why not fix the crooked exhaust :-(

2 years ago
Thomas Yan
Thomas Yan

Alpina right rear exhaust drives me crazy!!! someone plz fix it!!!

2 years ago
Princé Bankz
Princé Bankz

Oh my God... the best video!

2 years ago
dagda3000
dagda3000

Hate the design of the infotainment screen. Looks cheap. Mercedes and Audi do it better.

2 years ago
Laurence Connelly
Laurence Connelly

Two of the most existing car around driven by the most Boring dude every 🤔

2 years ago
Caio Caldas
Caio Caldas

Could BMW enter in the truck market ?

2 years ago
Rodrigo Martins
Rodrigo Martins

3:55 put subtitles on

2 years ago
valentine
valentine

Rodrigo Martins underrated comment

2 years ago
The ONE
The ONE

Go faster stripes. Wheel design from the 80's. SE front end. Come on Alpina. Get with it.

2 years ago
ZakTulipano
ZakTulipano

This guy is so boring omg

2 years ago
Jim
Jim

Very exciting cars. Very boring review.

2 years ago
Luke Benjamin St dennis
Luke Benjamin St dennis

fantastic review

2 years ago

This car with manual gearbox = divine perfection

2 years ago
Prince King
Prince King

What I wanna know is that is the moon-roof optional or is it just carbon fibre only

2 years ago
Tech It Out
Tech It Out

Just realised this is filmed where I live :D

2 years ago
Ben Cook
Ben Cook

unbadged alpina B5 for a long drive... yes please.

2 years ago
Wouter
Wouter

This presenter is so boring

2 years ago
V12S65AMG
V12S65AMG

Alpina all the way! PS: Matt, stop with the decaf!!! have a energy drink or two before the review, keeps you a bit sharper, on the edge..... Your vids are boring AF!

2 years ago
Adii S
Adii S

6:01 lol I was so fucking nervous when I saw you driving in the wrong lane just before that curve, then I realized it's England.

2 years ago
Matt
Matt

Why would anybody buy the B5 if you can get the B7, if you really care more about luxury than sportiness?

2 years ago
Mr Mistery Tour
Mr Mistery Tour

At 00:50 ...the M5 is 2 liters wide...WTAF!

2 years ago
Immy Kayani
Immy Kayani

The right hand side exhaust tips on the Alpina look like a botched boob job 🤣 I'm sure it just got knocked out of place by accident

2 years ago
Robbae
Robbae

M5 0-60 is 2.8s...

2 years ago
Si Raff
Si Raff

"A carbon fibre roof to lower the centre of gravity". So how much lower is the centre of gravity on that almost 2 tonne car because of this?

2 years ago
William Evans
William Evans

I'm sure this was filmed on part of the A4061, 'Bwlch-y-Clawdd' road north of the Ogmore Valley (where I grew up). This is known to have some very tortuous hairpins, including 'the keyhole' that (I'm pretty sure) appears at 5:36 and 7:27:. If this is the case, do you often do tests in this area?

2 years ago
Ferdinand Reynolds
Ferdinand Reynolds

Matt Prior is among the most boring presenters on YouTube. He's got to go.

2 years ago
Théophile COLIN
Théophile COLIN

Ok so because the Alpina is a little bit better on long road you think the Alpina is the winner ?! But the M5 is way better on track or performance driving so it's more versatile, and this is what you want from a sport saloon, this is the DNA of BMW M roadcars : versatility. PS : the performances of the car is not only 0-100 km/h (0-60 mph) and top speed, it's also 50-100 km/h, 100-200 km/h, 100-0 km/h, lap times (speed through corners, agility, precision), etc.

2 years ago
Danny Otter
Danny Otter

Spot on Matt :-) if I ever have a BMW again it will have to be an Alpina. Loved my E39 ///M5 and the only thing I think that can top it is a Alpina.

2 years ago
Socks With Sandals
Socks With Sandals

Last year I lived in Abergwynfi and drove over the Bwlch nearly everyday where this was filmed in a BMW 740i M. Paradise.

2 years ago
MrCourty89
MrCourty89

There seems to be some confusion between the two cars, there is never an Alpina variant of a BMW M car, Alpina in the design phase have access to the SE spec 5 series range which is why the Alpina range has always had SE derived bodywork, the Alpina engine and drivetrain are derived from the M550xi so it uses an N63R rather then an S63M, both similar engines originating from the N63 but with fundamental differences which is why they produce torque and power differently, both cars us a ZF 8HP75 auto gearbox so the M5 might have a different gear lever but it's just a flashy gimmick really, it's naturally wider track and slightly lighter weight would always give it the edge on a twisty B road but then the Alpina was always going to be a more refined daily car and in any case I feel the M5 has lost a number of things that would truly make it an M car, true rear wheel drive and either a manual or DCT gearbox just to name a few. The gap between an M car and a normal BMW appears to be shrinking...

2 years ago
IwillBwaiting
IwillBwaiting

I'm happy for the owner of that green car . Nice 5 series .

2 years ago
(Original Mix)
(Original Mix)

The Alpina rims look tacky in an aftermarket sort of way. As is the case with Alpina.

2 years ago
Zahid Shaff
Zahid Shaff

Wow drove performance cars at 20mph. Keep up the good work

2 years ago
Mr Jack
Mr Jack

I watch so many of your video's and enjoy them but why do you keep playing the background music just a bit too loud. This has been commented on several times over previous videos but you obviously don't read the comments as you insist on playing the music. Great video, very insightful but ruined for my liking

2 years ago
Mark D
Mark D

Dodgy tailpipe on that Alpina. Lol

2 years ago
Rhino Kh
Rhino Kh

You look like you’re going to sleep and what kind of review is that. Come on

2 years ago
furiousloins
furiousloins

It's a pity that Alpina couldn't make the exhaust tips fit properly on a £100,000 car.

2 years ago
Iceberg4k1
Iceberg4k1

You bore me yet again.

2 years ago
weirdshibainu
weirdshibainu

B5.....easier to live with as a daily driver and love the wheels

2 years ago
michael gill
michael gill

600 bhp still doesn't allow you to exceed 70 mph so whats the point, only men with tiny willies buy M and Rs cars and endanger the lives of us innocent drivers. should be banned. And don't say u r good drivers U r all shit.

2 years ago
Khia Griffith
Khia Griffith

I’ll have a D5 Touring, thanks.

2 years ago
Andrew Xie
Andrew Xie

M5 vs Alpina B5 dragrace please!!!!

2 years ago

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